The Confederate Flag Debate: Heritage or Hate?

Jaxon Wildwood

Updated Monday, August 26, 2024 at 12:00 AM CDT

A video circulating on Imgur titled "So why that one?" has sparked an intense debate about the usage of the Confederate flag. The discussion dives deep into the often-cited argument of heritage versus hate. The video features a person questioning why people fly a flag that isn't even the national flag of the Confederacy.

"It's my heritage, not my hate," the person in the video says. However, the speaker challenges this claim by pointing out historical inaccuracies. Why are people flying a version of the Confederate flag that only gained popularity after the 1900s? If the flag is truly about heritage, why not fly the national flag of the Confederacy or individual state battle flags like those from Georgia or Alabama?

One notable point made is that the actual battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia featured a square with a white border, which is not the version commonly seen today. The closest match is the Tennessee battle flag, usually adorned with gold lettering and unit markers. The speaker also mentions that many who fly the Confederate flag might not appreciate the style of stars found on older versions.

User reactions to the video are varied and insightful. One user sarcastically comments, "We fly it because it was on the General Lee and that's all the 'history' we care for!" Another user appreciates the depth of the discussion, stating, "See, now, this is a good discussion on flags."

The video also includes a historical nugget about the flag on the wall behind the speaker being the Fort Sumner flag from 1861. This detail adds another layer to the conversation about which flags hold true historical value.

A particularly poignant comment reminds viewers that "the whole heritage argument is ridiculous to begin with. You cannot be a modern-day patriot while being patriotic to a failed nation that left the United States." This user points out that the Confederacy was not a part of the United States but an enemy state that tried to secede.

Another user brilliantly summarizes the controversial history of the Confederate flag, noting that "the stars and bars were merch and cosplay used to solidify Jim Crow oppression." This flag was sold in magazines to people unaffiliated with the actual Civil War, solidifying its role as a symbol of division rather than unity.

Humor also finds its way into the discussion, with one user quipping, "The Dukes of Hazard lasted longer than the Confederacy." Another user humorously calls the Confederate flag a "participation trophy," a term they intend to keep using.

The debate over the flag's significance continues, but it's clear that many see it as a symbol of treason and division rather than heritage. This video and its accompanying discussion serve as a reminder that understanding history and its symbols is crucial in forming a well-rounded perspective.

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Top Comments from Imgur

finstad4

"We fly it because it was on the General Lee and that's all the 'history' we care for!"

ZoBrightlance

See, now, this is a good discussion on flags.

sumthinsumthinsumthin

For the curious, the flag on the wall behind him is the Fort Sumner flag from 1861: https://ushistory.org/betsy/flagfact.html

GravyEducation

Daily reminder that Minnesota captured a Virginian battle flag and they keep asking for it back and we keep politely telling them to go f*** themselves

DirtPoorFarmerSeedingUsersub

because the stars and bars was a bit of merch and cosplay that subsequent generations used to solidify Jim Crowe system of oppression and champion the lore of noble white southerner. It was actually created and sold in magazines to people completely unaffiliated with the actual civil war.

SLCtechie

The whole heritage argument is ridiculous to begin with. You cannot be a modern day patriot as well as being patriotic of a failed nation that left the US. A lot of these confederates forget or don’t know that the Confederacy was not a militia within the US. They were literal traitors to the US and attempted to form their own country.

ChelChehalem

The Dukes of Hazard lasted longer than the Confederacy.

ran76

"It's my heritage, not my hate!" Sooo... your heritage is treason and slavery?

Nanntuckett

It’s amazing how so many southerners still don’t understand the confederacy fought AGAINST America. I live in the south and see way too many confederate flags…

miertam

I love how he snuck in the white Hankey that was waved in surrender.

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